Sunday, January 19, 2020

IBM Medicare Via Benefits Reimbursement Problems and Errors for 2020

Something is amiss with Via Benefits Reimbursements.  Make sure your recurring premium reimbursements and your claims are being properly processed. It seems they are messing up!

My problem relates to recurring premium reimbursement.  I did not change my insurance plans in 2019 and had purchased the policies through Via Benefits in 2018.  What is supposed to happen is automatic premium reimbursements continue into 2020 without any action on my part.  That's what happened in previous years.

I noticed about a week ago the auto reimbursement for the Medicare Supplement policies for me and my spouse didn't happen. When I looked on the website there was still the information showing auto reimbursement but no funds had been dispersed. However, the part D insurance reimbursement looked to be working okay.

I used the "Help" function in the reimbursement services function to open a ticket to complain about the Medicare Supplement premiums.  They fixed it and "closed" the ticket without any explanation. The way I knew it really was fixed was by not only checking on the website but also looking for the direct deposit of the premiums for January 2020.

Then, I looked again at the part D auto reimbursement payment.  They display that disbursement in a strange way.  It's not worth explaining but it is confusing - at least for me. On second look,  I realized they reimbursed automatically for the part D January insurance premium for me but had not done it for my spouse's part D insurance.  Again, I used "Help" to open a ticket.  Again, it was fixed and closed without any explanation. When I checked it again, they showed the premiums were reimbursed on 1/1/2020 BUT they did not deposit the reimbursement in my account, nor did they reduce the HRA account by that amount.  I generated another help ticket.  What a mess!

Although I don't like the way the "Help" works, I think it might still be better to use than trying to call them, if you have a claims problem.  It seems calling them is a nightmare no matter what you need - whether it is changing insurance or resolving a claim problem. Unfortunately, you have to call them if you want to change your insurance provider because they have to record your voice when they make the change.
   
To use their online system to file a reimbursement complaint, sign on to the website and click the reimbursements link to get to it. "Help" is at the top of the HRA funds and reimbursement web page. Don't use the "Help" function on the main web page you see when you first log on.  You must click the reimbursements link to see the Help associated with reimbursements.

Doing it online not only eliminates talking to incompetent representatives, it will also provide clear documentation on your complaint interactions in your account and provides a reference if you are forced to call them.

What follows is a comment posted by a reader a couple of days ago who is having a miserable time with Via Benefits and did try to resolve it by calling them. The moral of this post is pay close attention to what Via Benefits is doing and be sure your claims are properly processed!!!
   
 
To get reimbursed for the part of my Medicare part B premium that is not covered by the SHAP $900, I send in a Reimbursement form in January of the next year, after the previous years last quarter SHAP has processed. I include a copy of my SS letter showing what the Medicare Part B premium will be for that previous year, a copy of the 4 quarterly payments by SHAP for the previous year, and ask for the balance not paid by SHAP, on reimbursement form. I sent all this data for 2019 in in early January 2020, expecting the balance to be taken out of my 2019 HRA. VIA Benefits treated it as a recurring premium reimbursement for 2020,divided the balance due by 12, and took the first months(January 2020) payment out of my 2020 HRA. After spending an hour on the phone with VIA Benefits(half of it when rep put me on hold to talk with someone else), I was told they would try to straighten it out. I would need to call back in about 10 days to see if it got straightened out. I asked if they could email or txt me to tell me the status, but no, I would have to call back after 10 days. Since you never talk to the same person twice, I imagine I will have to go through the whole thing again with the new rep. Omaha worked much better for claims than El Paso does.

24 comments:

  1. I am the one who is having trouble with the 2019 Medicare Part B premium reimbursement. Thanks for mentioning the "Help" process. I have used it in the past, but I figured it would be easier to explain things on the phone, so I could keep talking until the rep understood my problem. I am not sure the rep ever understood the problem, but I have to assume whoever she talked to while I was on hold for 30 minutes, understood, because when the rep came back, she said I filed the claim correctly, and the person processing it, entered it into the system incorrectly. After the rep told me to call back in 10 days to see if it has been resolved, and I have no record of my call, I now wish I had used the "Help" process, just so I would have a record of it. After the 10 days are up, I will open a "Help" to check on it, rather than calling back. It is really too bad we can not communicate directly with the claims department, when we have a problem, instead of having the VIA Benefits rep try to serve as the middle person. Thanks for all you work and help.

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  2. I hope the "Help" approach works if your problem isn't fixed. It is sort of working for me in that I am getting incremental fixes but it is highly annoying.

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  3. Several days after I talked to the rep at VIA Benefits, I received an email from them asking me to take a survey in regard to my call. Needless to say, I didn't give them high marks. 3 or 4 days later, someone from Via Benefits tried to call me, but, since I was busy and didn't answer my phone, they sent me an email.

    They were responding to my poor survey, and wanted to know if they could be of any help in resolving my problem. I sent them the following email:

    Juan,

    Sorry I missed your call. I called VIA Benefits on Friday 1/17/2020 to tell them that the claim I sent in for $726 for my 2019 Medicare Part B premium was incorrectly processed as a recurring premium against my 2020 HRA, instead of a lump sum payment that should have been taken out of my 2019 HRA. They divided the $726 by 12, and took $60.50 out of my 2020 HRA for the January payment, and scheduled 11 more payments of $60.50 for the rest of the year, all against my 2020 HRA, incorrectly.

    I told the rep I talked to what was wrong, and that they should credit my 2020 HRA for the $60.50 payment, and make the payment show against my 2019 HRA. They should also send me a payment of $665.50(the balance of the $726 claim- the $60.50 payment), and make it against my 2019 HRA. They also need to cancel the incorrect 11 $60.50 payments that are scheduled to automatically process against my 2020 HRA.

    I just checked my account(today on 1/24/2020), and NOTHING has been done, after a week. The next INCORRECT HRA 2020 payment is scheduled to automatically be processed on Feb 1,2020.

    If I was to do the survey today, I would rate it even LOWER, since VIA Benefits has had a week to straighten it out, it is affecting my 2020 HRA, and NOTHING has been done, according to what I can see. No new payments have been processed against my 2019 HRA, the incorrect $60.50 has still been taken from my 2020 HRA, and 11 more incorrect payments of $60.50 are scheduled to be automatically taken from my 2020 HRA.

    The only number I can see for this claim is the Expense ID of 315074707.

    If you can do anything to help resolve this before the incorrect Feb 1,2020 $60.50 payment is automatically processed against my 2020 HRA, I would appreciate it.
    James Ford

    I received this reply:



    Mr. Ford,
    I apologize for the inconvenience incurred. I did do research on the account and determined the payment is incorrect. I have created a ticket for our funding department to research and update the payment. I can follow up with you once I have received an update.e and I will make sure I follow up with you as soon as I have an update from our funding team. Please let me know if there’s anything I can assist you with.

    So the rep I spoke with on 1/17/2020 didn't even open a ticket with funding for my problem.







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  4. Today I sent this email:

    Juan,
    Thanks for your help. Does the fact that you created a ticket with the funding department mean that no ticket was created from my call to Via Benefits on 01/17/2020? If so, why not?

    Looking at my account on VIABENEFITS.COM, i see it is possible for me to cancel the upcoming automatic 11 payments of $60.50. The next one of these is going to automatically process on 2/1/2020. If these haven't been cancelled by the end of the week, I will cancel them myself from my account. I thought about canceling them now, but,since you have opened a ticket with the funding department, I don't want to make things anymore confusing for them, so will wait to see what they do, by the end of the week.

    Thanks again, James Ford

    I received this reply:


    Mr. Ford,
    From the research I see, I did not see a funding ticket was created when you spoke to a representative on 01/17/2020, I apologize for the inconvenience. I will make sure to send a corresponding coaching to that representative. I am still working with the funding department on a resolution, but I understand you do not want to receive the February reimbursement from 2020 contributions. Please cancel the process for February. I will make sure I inform the funding department we still need February reimbursed, but with your 2019 balance.

    Again, I apologize for this inconvenience and I will make sure I follow up with you as soon as I have an update from our funding team. Please let me know if there’s anything I can assist you with.

    I sent this reply:

    Juan,

    I don't think you fully understand my claim. It is not for a recurring premium. It is for a reimbursement request for $726. The $726 is for the balance of the 2019 Medicare premiums($135.50x12=$1626) I already paid, minus the $900 2019 SHAP IBM reimbursements I already received. The $726 should have been paid in a lump sum, taken out of my 2019 HRA. All 11 of the scheduled $60.50 payments from my 2020 HRA need to be cancelled(I will do that after I send this email).

    To fix this mess, funding needs to credit the $60.50 payment taken out of my 2020 HRA on 1/17/2020, back to my 2020 HRA, and then debit it out of my 2019 HRA. Then they need to send me a payment of $665.50 ($726 claim - $60.50 paid on 1/17/2020) taken out of my 2019 HRA.

    James Ford

    I sent this in on a "reimbursement request form", not a "recurring premium request form", as I have done every year with no problems. Even Juan appears to still think it should be a recurring premium, just against my 2019 HRA, not a lump sum payment.

    I will update as I receive news.



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    1. Thank you for taking the time to post all the information about your Via Benefits interactions. What a nightmare!

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    2. They finally realized it was against my 2019 HRA instead of my 2020 HRA. Now they want the January 2020 payment made in error against my 2020 HRA back. That is no problem. The problem is, instead of paying the lump sum of $726 for all of 2019, they are still treating it like a recurring premium reimbursement request, instead of a lump sum reimbursement request for premiums already paid. So they only made one payment for January 2019 of $60.50 against my 2019 HRA.Following that logic, I will get one $60.50 payment each moth of 2020 for 2019 payments I have already made. They need to send a check for a lump sum of $665.50 to cover the balance of my $726 claim.

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  5. Now I can't even login to Via benefits to see the status of my HRAs. Since I can't login, I can't open a "help" ticket. Therefore, I had to call to have a rep open a ticket(hopefully) in regard to not being able to login. The rep said many others are having the same problem. For some time, when trying to login, it would just return you to the login screen, after entering your email and password. No errors indicated. If you tried long enough, then it would work. Now it doesn't ever work. Maybe that is a way for them to force you to go through the reps. I hope not. I have other claims to submit, but I don't want to do so until my 2019 and 2020 HRAs are straightened out.

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  6. I got it to work by saying I forgot my password and then reset my password. Maybe that will work/

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    1. I was able to follow your suggestion and get in. Thanks

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  8. I just talked to Juan on the phone. He said they only paid one $60.50 payment for January 2019, because I didn't send my claim in on a "Medicare part B recurring premium reimbursement request" form. I have to send Juan a Medicare part B recurring request form for Feb 1 2019-Dec 31 2019, with a balance owed of $665.50. He will fax that, along with a copy of my previous data, to funding, so they will pay Feb 2019-Dec 2019 in a lump payment of $665.50, taken out of my 2019 HRA. I told him I have always submitted my Medicare part B claim on a regular reimbursement form, after all my SHAP payments have been made for the year, and there has never been a problem. He said, from now on use the Medicare part B recurring premium reimbursement form, even though I have made all my premium payments for the year, have all the year's SHAP payments, and am sending it in in January of the next year. So in January of 2021, I will submit my request for Medicare part B premium reimbursement Jan 2020-Dec 2020, minus the 2020 SHAP payments, on a Medicare part B recurring premium reimbursement request form. I will also include a note stating that the request is for 2020, and should be taken out of my 2020 HRA. Hopefully they will not take it out of the current HRA(2021), like they did this year.

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  9. Maybe submit the 2020 part B reimbursement in the beginning of December 2020 with a copy of your SHAP last quarter filing (rather than waiting for the SHAP statement)? This way they cannot possibly use the 2021 funding since it doesn't release until January 2021.

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  10. Now I can't use the "forgot password" to get in, because Via Benefits has a bug, where the email with your "forgot password" code. won't show up, if you are on Yahoo, and some other systems.

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  11. If you are having trouble with a claim, and not getting satisfactory results by talking with a customer service rep, you might want to fill out a very low rated survey, that they usually email you after talking to the rep.

    That is what I did after talking to a rep in regard to my Medicare Part B premium reimbursement. After I filled out a low survey, saying that I never wanted to talk with said rep again, I was called by a "Customer Survey Analyst". He asked about my poor survey, and has been working with funding to help resolve my problem. It is not totally resolved yet, but he has been a lot more help than any reps have.

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  12. I just talked to Via Benefits to see the status of my "unable to login" problem. The rep had me use Chrome, as their website was designed around using it. She had me clear all my data, and not use the "pre filled in email address" on the login screen. Doing this, I was able to login. I told her that I didn't even have Chrome until I started having problems, so downloaded it. In the past, I could login using Safari or Edge. She said I needed to use Chrome.Now, when I use Chrome, I can get right in to my acct. When I use Edge, I get the "Verify" screen, where they either call me or txt me with a code, and then using this code, I was able to get to my acct. I tried to use Safari, and can't get in, the login screen, with empty fields, just keeps coming back up. Using Chrome, if I use the "pre filled in email", the login screen with the filled in fields, keeps popping up.

    So I guess the best way to login is to use Chrome, and enter your email address, instead of letting it "pre fill". At least now I can get in to see my acct.

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  13. That seems like a Voodoo solution to me. It should make no difference what browser you use. I always use Chrome and never have "pre fill" information (I use an incognito browser) and I still had the logon problem. The quality of their call reps and their web team leaves a lot to be desired. Thanks for the tip on filling in the survey. I think that is the best way to try to get them to be better.

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  14. Now, following the reps previous instructions, can no longer login using Chrome, or any other browser. Get the following msg.We're sorry!

    An error has occurred. While we work to solve this problem try the following steps:

    Close your browser and open it again
    Try to sign in using a different browser
    Wait a few minutes and try again
    If these steps don't work, please call us for assistance.

    This login failure(showing up in different ways) has been going on for some time, and all we get from Via Benefits is the runaround. When I called to check on the status of my ticket for failure to login, the rep took me through the above mentioned steps, and I got in. I haven't been able to since then. They have a major problem, but they won't acknowledge it, nor fix it. When you can't login to there system, there is no excuse for it not being fixed quickly.

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  15. Juan called me today to say that the $665.50 for the balance of my 2019 Medicare type B premium had been processed. I was(surprise) able to login to Via Benefits, and the payment has been sent. I guess filling out a bad survey after you have trouble with a rep, so someone that monitors the surveys will call you, is the way to go.

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  16. Finally! What a nice Valentine gift for you.

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  17. Plato, Thanks for all the work you do, and the suggestions and info you give us.

    I asked Juan for his manager's email, so I can send a nice review, in regard to the help I received from him. He really came through for me.

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  18. Your are not the only person having problems with Via. What we need is a REPRESENTATIVE in IBM to contact when we have recurring Via problems. I cannot get results from Via either. billk28br@gmail.com

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  19. You can try to send an email to Via Benefits: https://my.viabenefits.com/about/contact

    My guess is IBM executives would love to abandon the health benefit entirely so trying to contact the VP of HR or some other executive in IBM is sort of worthless. Try to work it out with Via Benefits because they have a vested interest in keeping the retiree health benefit and thereby keeping retirees happy.

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  20. Why don't they just give us the $3000 per year? Instead of making us go through holy hel to get a nickel out of this place. The VIA customer service is so horrible, it HAS to be by design. I cannot believe IBM is so dumb to use VIA, maybe by design so they do not have to pay us.

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    1. By law, IBM must prove the $3000 is being spent on health insurance premiums or health related products for it to be tax free. IBM did not want to do that work. Via benefit does it and gets the bulk of their revenue from insurance companies when you buy a policy (they are insurance agents) so IBM does not have to pay them a lot to do the work.

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